Bravi gli amici si Salvini e della Meloni! Ungheria (cioè Orbán() e Polonia (cioè Morawieck) bloccano l'erogazione dei fondi contro la crisi indotta dalla pandemia

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Unione EUropea: io la vorrei federale, e tu?
Insomma: io sono federalista nel senso che vorrei he sulle questioni in cui il singolo stato membro non ha sufficiente capacità decisionale ci fosse un autentio coverno europeo centrale a decidere, ovviamente controllato da un parlamento europeo "sovrano" dotato cioè della pienezza del potere legislativo sull'intera Unione Europea. Il "Consiglio" (ossia la congrega dei governi nazionali) diventassse una seconda camera, come il "Senato" degli USA, cioè che i membri del Consiglio non fossero ministri o (nel caso di Consiglio Europeo) addirittura premier bensì proprio "senatori", cioè eletti nel prtoprio stato-membro in sua rappresentanza senza però avere in esso funzioni governative.
Ma così ancora non è in UE!
Nelle questioni importanti i membri del Consiglio (osia i rappresentanti degli stati membri che in patria sono ministri competenti nella materia in in discussione in Coìnsiglio europeo) ghanno ancora il diritto di veto. Tutto questo in nome della difesa deggli "interessi nazionali" – difesa ormai fasulla , molto spesso ipocrita e addirittura controproducente, come proprio nel caso attuale (di cui intendo ora parlare).
Ma voi che ancora frequentate questo forum ormai ... 2desolato", cioè: Verci, Rossoverde, samael, Tessa, ecc., da che parte state?
Ma pensa un po: In Polonia il governo controlla in pratica la magistratura, il che è contrario al diritto europeo (sottoscritto quale "patto" anche dal governo Polacco, dato che tuttora è riconosciuta formalmente la pienezza la "sovranità nazionale" (bencNé ormai fasulla da più di mezzo secolo). La Commissione si è mossa già da anni denunciando l'abuso del governo polacco, La Corte di Giustizia Europea ha accolto la denuncia della Commissione condannando la Pol,onia (solo sulla carta, dato che in pratica la condanna della Corte di Giusrtizia non basta ad infliggere "penalità" effettive per rispetto della "sovranità nazionale", ad eccezione dei casi di scorrettezze amministrative i in materia economica dove le "penalità" consistono nella sospensione parziale delle erogazioni pecuniarie a favore dello stato il cui governo ha commesso scorrettezze. Per "punire" lo stato il cui governo viola il diritto europeo oicoorre la sentenza UNANIME del Consiglio (tranne ovviamente il governo imputato). E così succede che l'Ungheria non vota la condanna della Polonia. E successivamente, quando l'imputato è il governo ungherese (cioè Viktor Orbán che ha assunto poteri speciali quasi dittatoriali ed è premier 'un foverno che ha ridotto gravemente la libertà di espressione dei "media" costringendo i giornalisti o a dimettersi o a fare i leccaculo del governo), ecco che manca l'unanimità perché è proprio il governo polacco che viene in soccorso di quello ungherese. La cosa è addirittura comica pur essendo in realtà "drammatica".
Ora succede che, siccome nel docjumento emesso dalla Commissione a riguardo del nuovo modo di varare il Bilancio-Budget per il prossimo settennio – Budget che comprende gli ingenti fondi in soccorso degli stati maggiormente colpiti dalla pandemia Covid-19 – si fa riferimento al diritto europeo che deve essere "comune" e però, per poter rispettarlo ogni stato deve non avere emergenze tali da impedirgli di farlo, i governi polacco ed ungherese non hanno approvato quella che era la proposta della Commissione Europea. Quindi, oltre al blocco della programmazione del budget oper il prossimo settennio sono bloccate anche le erogazioni di fondi agli sgtati in crisi per la pandemia (tra i quali il primo bewneficiario sarebbe l'Italia).
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Hungary and Poland block EU budget and corona package (17 novembre 2020)

European Council president Charles Michel (left) and Hungary's prime minister Viktor Orban at the crucial July budget negotiations (Photo: Council of the European Union)
Hungary and Poland on Monday (16 November) blocked the adoption of the €1.8 trillion new long-term EU budget and the coronavirus recovery package, in their dispute over linking EU funds to the respect of rule of law.
At an EU ambassadors' meeting, the two countries blocked a key step in the process, the adoption of the EU's so-called "own resources" legislation, which sets out the revenue the bloc itself can raise.
he EU commission said the adoption of the own resources decision is needed both for the 2021-27 EU budget and the recovery fund.
The two member states "expressed reservations" with regards to the rule of law conditionality, but "not to the substance" of the budget agreement, a spokesman for the German EU presidency said.
At the same meeting, a majority of member states adopted the rules on linking the distribution of EU funds to the respect of rule of law by member state governments.
Only Poland and Hungary opposed the adoption of the new mechanism
Behind the scenes
The two countries are already under scrutiny over breaking EU rules and values in the Article 7 sanctions process.
Monday's block means neither the budget, nor the recovery funds - both crucial for pumping EU funds into a European economy ravaged by the pandemic - can be up and running any time soon.
A senior EU diplomat said earlier the blockage would throw the EU into a "crisis".
"We will be likely in crisis again. I cannot tell you exactly when all this will be up and running, certainly there will be delays," the diplomat added.
German chancellor Angela Merkel, European Council president Charles Michel, EU Commission president Ursula von der Leyen and EU leaders will now be involved in discussions on how to move ahead.
"There is already talks behind the scenes, and I expect this to increase, to find the way out of this crisis that we are about to hit this afternoon," the diplomat said on Monday.
Most national parliaments also need to ratify the 'own resources' decision, which has already meant money from the recovery fund would likely only start to flow to EU countries in the second quarter of 2021. That date now could be delayed.
EU leaders are scheduled to have a videoconference on Thursday, where the issue is likely to be raised. But diplomats warned it could be weeks before a solution is found.
"They broke it, they fix it," said another EU diplomat, referring to the two countries, adding that "by meeting [Viktor] Orban's demands, we don't solve anything".
The European Parliament - which still needs to vote on the EU budget in its plenary - is also unlikely to agree to water down of the rule of law conditionality.
Budget commissioner Johannes Hahn said he was disappointed by the outcome of the meeting.
"I urge member states to assume political responsibility and take the necessary steps to finalise the entire package.This is not about ideologies, but about help for our citizens in the worst crisis since the Second World War!," Hahn tweeted.
German MEP Manfred Weber, who hails from the same political family, the European People's Party (EPP), as Hungary's prime minister Viktor Orban, said that "everybody who respects the rule of law has nothing to fear of this mechanism".
"The Hungarian and Polish governments should stop creating this fictional opposition between themselves and the values that are part of our treaties. There is no such opposition. The peoples of Europe have one single enemy at the moment, and that is the coronavirus, and they expect us to deliver now," Weber warned in a statement.
The EPP has provided political cover for Orban's party for years but suspended its membership last year.
Blackmailing
The German EU presidency and the European Parliament concluded talks on the EU budget and rule-of-law conditionality in the past two weeks.
The rule-of-law conditionality would mean that if there is a breach of EU values and rules that can be demonstrably linked to EU funds, the commission can then recommend the suspension or freezing of the funds, if the majority of member states concur.
EU leaders in July - where, during an epic five-day summit, they hammered out the main numbers of the long-term budget - also tried to define the rule-of-law conditionality, but the outcome was left vague.
And while Hungary and Poland had opposed the mechanism, the Netherlands, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Luxembourg, Belgium and Austria have pushed for a stronger link.
Both Polish prime minister Mateusz Morawiecki and Orban have said they will block the key elements of the package.
In a letter to senior EU officials last week, Morawiecki said that Poland would not accept "any discretionary mechanisms that are based on arbitrary, politically-motivated criteria".
Hungarian government spokesman Zoltan Kovacs on Monday said the rule of law link "runs contrary" to the agreement of EU leaders in July.
Hungary also rejected accusations that it was blackmailing the EU.
"It is not Hungary blackmailing and putting pressure on Brussels in the EU budget negotiations, but it is Brussels blackmailing us," the country's justice minister Judit Varga said in a Facebook post.
"It is not Hungary attacking Brussels and other member states with fabricated charges under the pretext of the rule of law, but it is them attacking us," she added.

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Hungary and Poland unfazed by EU outcry over budget bloc (19 Novembre 2020)

Polish prime minister Mateusz Morawiecki (l) and Hungary PM Viktor Orban (c) at a previous pre-coronavirus EU summit (Photo: Council of the European Union)
Hungary and Poland have dug their heels in on blocking the €1.8 trillion EU budget and coronavirus recovery package, over their objection to linking EU funds to the respect of the rule of law - despite calls from other EU capitals to rethink.
Ahead of a videoconference of EU leaders on Thursday evening, Warsaw and Budapest received backing from Slovenia's prime minister.
Janez Jansa, in a letter to EU commission president Ursula von der Leyen and European Council president Charles Michel, said that the agreement on the rule-of-law conditionality "undermines" the original deal reached by EU leaders on the matter and the budget-recovery package at an epic summit in July.
"Today, numerous media and some political groups in the European Parliament are openly threatening to use the instrument wrongly called 'rule of law' in order to discipline individual EU member states through a majority vote," Jansa said.
"The 'rule of law' means that disputes are decided by an independent court and not by a political majority in any other institution," he added, saying EU institutions should not be involved in the internal political conflicts of member states.
But while Jansa supported the arguments of his ally, Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orban, Slovenia did not block a key move on Monday at a meeting of EU ambassadors to halt the adoption of the budget and recovery package.
Orban himself in a statement on Wednesday (18 November) said that the rule of law conditionality will be used to "to blackmail countries which oppose migration".
"In Brussels today, they only view countries which let migrants in as those governed by the rule of law. Those who protect their borders cannot qualify as countries where rule of law prevails," he claimed.
"In our view, tying economic and financial questions to political debates would be a grave mistake, one that would undermine Europe's unity. Any new procedure aimed at penalising member states should only be introduced with the unanimous amendment of the treaties," Orban argued.
Polish prime minister Mateusz Morawiecki said that he would ask legislators to vote on a resolution supporting the government's stance on the rule of law. In a speech to parliament he railed against what he said was unequal treatment of some member states, Reuters reported.
'Practical solutions'
While the issue will be be raised at Thursday's meeting, it is unlikely that a solution will be found.
EU diplomats have argued they will wait to see what exactly Hungary and Poland want from their blockade.
"We will wait what Budapest and Warsaw are up to, what they want to do to resolve the situation," said one senior EU source.
"We have to ask them what their real problem is," the source added.
On Tuesday, several countries' EU ministers called on Budapest and Warsaw to remove their blockade to be able to unleash the €1.8 trillion package aimed at mitigating the economic effects of the pandemic.
One possibility to resolve the situation, raised in the Dutch parliament on Tuesday, is to detach the recovery fund from the EU budget and move it forward without Hungary and Poland.
On Wednesday, French state secretary for European affairs Clement Beaune confirmed the EU is studying "practical solutions" to settle the dispute - but added that the countries "will move forward" without Poland and Hungary if there is no way out.
Beaune added that this is a "last resort".
He said France and Germany are looking into "technical clarifications" about the rule of law conditionality, but that the legislation will stay.
The rule of law conditionality, which links the pay out of EU funds to respect for the rule of law has been adopted by 25 member states, and is expected to be voted on next week in the European Parliament.
The party group leaders and the parliament's president, David Sassoli, on Thursday said that the rule of law conditionality and budget - negotiated with the German EU presidency over the last months - "are both a closed deal and can in no way be reopened".
"No further concession will be made on our side," they said.

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